A smart way to use expired domains

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Often people buy a bunch of expired domains and build PBNs with average content and thats ok, we all know it works.

But I quite like what the dude from Gotcha SEO has done here...

boots2business.org expired because it moved domain so he's 301'd it to a new internal page on his money site https://www.gotchseo.com/boots-to-business/ kept the content relevant but also worked in his own niche's content then used the juice to power up some inner pages he's trying to rank.

He also linked to the new website at the end https://sbavets.force.com/s/
 

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I have been doing it like that for a while now and so do many of my clients and friends. It works miracles.

Make sure you interlink that inner page as much as you can to encourage better link juice flow.
 

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Interesting.
How many 301s from expired domains I can safely do on a site? Say the site has 30 posts
 

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Interesting.
How many 301s from expired domains I can safely do on a site? Say the site has 30 posts

About as many as if you were to look at a competitor and know they were doing this and they weren't genuine business acquisitions with legit intentions. 2? 3? 4? depends on the sites and your site really...

You don't want to look shady for that manual review ...
 

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Interesting.
How many 301s from expired domains I can safely do on a site? Say the site has 30 posts

Depends on how spammy your niche is. With common non spammy ones I try to limit to 3. And even then I am stricing not to do more than 1 redirect a year.

If you are redirecting a massive domain, it can be quite a shock for your money site at first.

With spammy niches like, for example, coupons/pharma/hacks, I don't think it even matters.

The spammier, the merrier.
 

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How to tell whether the 301ed page get link juice or not, it's hard to tell.
I hold an expired domain which has a backlink on the homepage of cnet.com, I am thinking of a way to maximize the link juice through 301 redirect.
Any suggestions? @Nargil
 

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How to tell whether the 301ed page get link juice or not, it's hard to tell.
I hold an expired domain which has a backlink on the homepage of cnet.com, I am thinking of a way to maximize the link juice through 301 redirect.
Any suggestions?

It's not hard to tell at all. If you did everything right then you will know, trust me on that.

If you are redirecting a 30RD domain with 1 decent link, then you will most likely not see much of an effect.

Try redirecting 500RD and 40DR (metrics, sure, but to get you an idea) domain and you will experience an event more violent than Big Bang.

And you will know it works :)
 

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Why should you care about the other 499 referring backlinks from inner pages in weak sites? I am talking about the homepage backlinks from cnet.com which has 10M RD, think about how much link juice you can get on the homepage.
Tell me your theory on this please, and I am really confused.
 

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Why should you care about the other 499 referring backlinks from inner pages in weak sites? I am talking about the homepage backlinks from cnet.com which has 10M RD, think about how much link juice you can get on the homepage.
Tell me your theory on this please, and I am really confused.

1. Cnet is not exactly an amazing link. Not too hard to get.
2. You know, there are other links besides Cnet, Huffpost and NYtimes and so on.
3. Not every link is shit. You would never get 400 out of those 500 links even if you tried very hard.
 

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It's not hard to tell at all. If you did everything right then you will know, trust me on that.

If you are redirecting a 30RD domain with 1 decent link, then you will most likely not see much of an effect.

Try redirecting 500RD and 40DR (metrics, sure, but to get you an idea) domain and you will experience an event more violent than Big Bang.

And you will know it works :)

I usually see a huge difference in RD values in Ahref and Majestic. Which of these do you follow.
 

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I usually see a huge difference in RD values in Ahref and Majestic. Which of these do you follow.

They are not that huge. If you are not counting the Blogspot spam that Ahrefs counts in and Majestic ignores, then the differences are trivial.

If you want to be thorough, download the reports from both Majestic and Ahrefs, merge them, remove duplicates and tadaaaa, you have your approximate RD number.

If you can't be bothered, then focus on Ahrefs I suppose.
 

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for a website that have content legit backlink from top news site as profile , having 5 redirect is risky ? 301 are just have 1 backlink from sites like huffpost or guardian .... and totaly clean as profiles
 

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1. Cnet is not exactly an amazing link. Not too hard to get.
2. You know, there are other links besides Cnet, Huffpost and NYtimes and so on.
3. Not every link is shit. You would never get 400 out of those 500 links even if you tried very hard.
Are you f**king kidding me? a backlink on the HOMEPAGE of cnet.com is NOT too hard to get???
 

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Well, the method itself is a standard since years, but for me that most interesting thing here is how the content was adapted to it's new 301 referral
 

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Are you f**king kidding me? a backlink on the HOMEPAGE of cnet.com is NOT too hard to get???

What @Robzkie said.

That link is obviously strong, but from my experience, redirects aren't really about 1 good link, but about a larger amount of very decent links.

Also, are you sure that link is live? I just scraped a homepage of Cnet for all external links and do not see anything expired there.
 

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What @Robzkie said.

That link is obviously strong, but from my experience, redirects aren't really about 1 good link, but about a larger amount of very decent links.

Also, are you sure that link is live? I just scraped a homepage of Cnet for all external links and do not see anything expired there.
Any theory supports your conclusion? I mean I can just obtain thousand backlinks using SEO tools, doesn't mean those backlinks have so much power.
Yes, I paid $2,500 for this expired domain, from the theory of link juice, the hompage holds most of link juice, and that's why the backlink on the hompage is most valueable, I do hope the expired domain is not over paid...
 

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This links usually called homepage links , many of uss use this technique to power some rankings up ,!
 

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Any theory supports your conclusion? I mean I can just obtain thousand backlinks using SEO tools, doesn't mean those backlinks have so much power.
Yes, I paid $2,500 for this expired domain, from the theory of link juice, the hompage holds most of link juice, and that's why the backlink on the hompage is most valueable, I do hope the expired domain is not over paid...

Why would you need a theory, when I am talking from experience?

The beefier the domain, the better it works. Ideally you want a huge amount of very good links, rather than 1 excellent.

Also, I literally said "larger amount of very decent links". Where exactly do you see any mention of automated tools?

See, there's a bit of wiggling space between "Cnet homepage link" and "automated backlinks".

Cnet homepage link is great, sure, but basing the value of the entire domain on just one link is not a great idea.

That link will eventually disappear and the domain will be fairly useless without other links.

Plus, if that backlink is that strong and would help your site jump through Serps, what would happen once they remove it?

And I can't believe site like Cnet would not notice within a couple weeks that they have a homepage link pointing to a site they do not intend to.

And also:

- Most Cnet.com external links from homepage are n0follow. With the exceptions of Cnet owned properties.
- And as I have said before, I scraped all the external links on Cnet.com. Most are owned by Cnet and there isn't a single expired domain.

I would paste the list there, but I won't in case one of those domains really is yours.

Make sure that link is there and alive mate, just my 2 cents.
 

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Why would you need a theory, when I am talking from experience?

The beefier the domain, the better it works. Ideally you want a huge amount of very good links, rather than 1 excellent.

Also, I literally said "larger amount of very decent links". Where exactly do you see any mention of automated tools?

See, there's a bit of wiggling space between "Cnet homepage link" and "automated backlinks".

Cnet homepage link is great, sure, but basing the value of the entire domain on just one link is not a great idea.

That link will eventually disappear and the domain will be fairly useless without other links.

Plus, if that backlink is that strong and would help your site jump through Serps, what would happen once they remove it?

And I can't believe site like Cnet would not notice within a couple weeks that they have a homepage link pointing to a site they do not intend to.

And also:

- Most Cnet.com external links from homepage are n0follow. With the exceptions of Cnet owned properties.
- And as I have said before, I scraped all the external links on Cnet.com. Most are owned by Cnet and there isn't a single expired domain.

I would paste the list there, but I won't in case one of those domains really is yours.

Make sure that link is there and alive mate, just my 2 cents
I tried to find an alternative way to get powerful expired domains at a reasonable price instead of missing in the bidding war where every SEOers use the same "classic" standard to filter/bid on the expired domains, and the price rises like crazy every year.
Anyway, thanks for your reply, and I will report back here after I use this domain for 301 redirect.
 
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