Andrew Tate best marketer of all time.
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egregious? lol
i'm on vacation, bro. this is the lounge. i'm just responding to a thread. don't take it so seriously.
yes he's in jail.
when multiple women accuse you, there must be a reason for that. right now i believe it's 6 women who are accusing him. if you combine the accusations with what he ACTUALLY SAYS IN HIS VIDEOS about the women who work for him, it really is not hard to believe them.
did i say that? i'm not sure i did. if anything, Tate seems pretty straight forward about what he's doing.
it's not my fault that you don't want to read anything or watch anything related to the case and have already made up your mind. i've already said here that you don't need hard evidence when you have multiple witnesses to a crime because the witnesses are evidence. i'm happy to debate whether or not this is a good way to prosecute people, but to say there's no evidence when i've provided plenty here is absurd.
i agree with you.
i think i maybe have spent an hour total on this thread. i honestly don't care as much as it seems like i do. i'm just on vacation, getting ready for the new year and this story happened, and domestic violence is something i happen to care about so i thought it was a bad sign that people would prop up a guy like this when there's better examples of great marketers.
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The Court in Romania will decide if he is guilty or not but it seems that you already decided based on some articles from mainstream media.
So calling other guys losers IS looser talk?
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In a year or two there will be a thread about some other guru about him being the best marketer of all time.
Yes, very much so.
Putting your attention on the negative and then focusing more by calling a bunch of people X, Y and Z is not something I would say is conjusive to the mindset of a successful person.
Only unhappy, unfulfilled, unfocused people without purpose go around attacking random groups of people and in the process of doing so always come up with a whole bunch of reasons and justifications for their action, which is mostly just to appease their own ego and help them sleep better at night.
Ultimately all these discussions are pointless. People very rarely change, and rather than openly listen and take on outside perspectives they will just argue. Everyone here in this thread will just blindly argue and cling to their belief that they are right. That there is one world view and everyone outside of their world view is wrong/broken.
Tate is just a person. He isn't evil and he isn't a saint. There are many shades of grey and many agendas at play. Despite this people choose to view it all as black and white, and it's this very black and white thinking that causes people to open themselves up to enslavement in some form or another, even if that enslavement is just rampant consumerism and lack of purpose.
Most people reading this won't even really understand any of the points I'm making. It's ultimately very futile.
Except, sadly for you, I'm not a guru teaching you how to make money or replicate my success. You'll have to work it out on your own, so calling others "gurus" won't help you there I'm afraid. Most of what I do to make money I wouldn't share publicly.
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you're making very valid points. i still think Tate's a d-bag on steroids and it sucks that he would be a marketer to aspire to. his personal life has overshadowed his skill as a marketer. and i think he makes all of us look bad.
years ago i was one of those guys who didn't want to identify as an "internet marketer" because of stigma it carried, but i decided to embrace it because it's your life and you get to define your career, so fuck anyone who judges you for what you do, that's what i live by. but this guy took that idea to another level and it's embarassing. it's like sociopathic type of behavior. it's like these people working for him aren't human in his mind, they're second-class at best. i hate that shit, so i react impulsively i guess.
so, what is so great about his marketing?
- he identified a demographic
- he told them everything they wanted to hear (including how much they suck and need a solution)
- then he gave them the solution (amazing gangsta mofo with bitches galore and too many cars to count)
- created a sales funnel
- launched it and banked
he's doing everything right from a marketing perspective. it's almost like he's genius, right?
but he's doing what no one else is willing to do, and there's a reason for that: people won't do that because he looks like such a jerk that everyone who doesn't fit his demo wishes he would just go away.
how good of a marketer is he? did he make his money from his course or something else?
we know he was running a webcam business and obviously his models are unhappy with him.
so... he's not good at running a webcam business...
if you're good at it you don't get these accusations and get arrested.
he's now stuck in jail for a max of 180 days while they continue investigating and really bad texts were given to Vice. people are saying they're fake, of course. we'll see.
anyway, my point is
this is all very, very, very bad marketing for his brand.
Sorry Mr. Splash, my bad.
He is excellent at selling himself, but his products are pure trash. This will catch up with him. In a few years, he'll be a nobody.
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The Data Scientist
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I saw yesterday someone mentioned how he was like an early 2000s rap star with his cars, women etc. to make people jealous and want to be like him.
Yes, but those rappers at least made music and therefore provided value. Andrew Tate is selling a dream and not anything valuable. His products offer nothing. It's a fraud tbh like all the other fake get rich quick gurus.
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just a scammer and what he deserved
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I get the point you're trying to make, but 50 is now a billionaire (or close to it) from his music, TV/movie, and business ventures, so probably not the best example.
I would argue it's today's "rappers" that are fraudulent as fuck and portray themselves in a way that isn't even close to congruent with who they are just for that image.
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The guy is obviously extremely smart. He is not much different from other big players or corporations, he is simply exploiting people.
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I don't even know/care who is this guy 
Andrew Tate has not yet been charged, not yet been convicted & not yet been sentenced. A judge recently extended his detention until Feb. 27.
It is quite clear by now that whatever materials, evidence, witnesses, proofs, etc the authorities / prosecuting party / prosecuting parties have, are all weak and not good enough, otherwise by now the charges atleast the charges would have been officially made (filed).
Andrew Tate will soon walk out as a free man and continue to live free.
From what I read in the news, Andrew Tate emailed his followers from jail "My absolute respect for everyone around me is my act of absolute rebellion. They cannot break me".
Once Andrew Tate is out from detention, a few hundreds of millions of (US) dollars more for him : He will legally sue the ass out of the authorities / prosecuting party / prosecuting parties, for his wrongful & illegal detention and ofcourse once he is out from detention, his popularity will further increase. And he is quite smart in very effectively monetizing his popularity. The best thing to ever happen in Andrew Tate's life, is this detention. Not only are his balls made of steel, but he is one of the smartest marketers around. He knows what kind of crap people like to hear and even buy into and he is awesome in "manufacturing" that crap and amazing in marketing his "manufactured" crap, better than anyone else. As simple as that.
It is quite clear by now that whatever materials, evidence, witnesses, proofs, etc the authorities / prosecuting party / prosecuting parties have, are all weak and not good enough, otherwise by now the charges atleast the charges would have been officially made (filed).
Andrew Tate will soon walk out as a free man and continue to live free.
From what I read in the news, Andrew Tate emailed his followers from jail "My absolute respect for everyone around me is my act of absolute rebellion. They cannot break me".
Once Andrew Tate is out from detention, a few hundreds of millions of (US) dollars more for him : He will legally sue the ass out of the authorities / prosecuting party / prosecuting parties, for his wrongful & illegal detention and ofcourse once he is out from detention, his popularity will further increase. And he is quite smart in very effectively monetizing his popularity. The best thing to ever happen in Andrew Tate's life, is this detention. Not only are his balls made of steel, but he is one of the smartest marketers around. He knows what kind of crap people like to hear and even buy into and he is awesome in "manufacturing" that crap and amazing in marketing his "manufactured" crap, better than anyone else. As simple as that.
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Biggest scammer that is why he will end up in jail!
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i've been researching his courses and i must say i do not have any problem with anything he's selling besides the whole "it's all about controlling women" thing with his webcam business. most of what he sells is the same shit we all see in the IM industry, but that is a new thing. promoting this idea about amassing a buncha hos and abusing them is where i draw the line. i mean, shit, there's women in IM these days. did he think they didn't exist? he's alienating 50% of the population, and that's money being left on the table.
plus, he just generally sounds like a douchebag.