Backlinks won’t matter- google

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If someone makes the site name " SDFSDFS SDFSDF."

Does he need backlinks to take rank in his site title?

yes 1 backlink is enough, << that's what google meaning easy life ;p
 

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It makes no difference.
I don't think the ranking position has anything to do with it. The algorithm and the patents used for it is in the public domain. Google will obviously be secretive about it, but you can go look at the formulas. I don't think ranking position of a page plays into how "powerful" the link is. Based on testing I have done, it does seem very much like links that get actual clicks pass more value than links on a PBN site that doesn't get seen by anyone ever. That would make sense, since links certainly is still a factor, but not all links are a factor and obviously not all links have the same value.
The whole idea of traffic being a ranking factor is stupid.
Again, pretty easy to test. Just like not all links are equal, not all traffic is equal either. A link that gets clicks because it's on a site that gets real traffic has higher value than link on a site that gets no click (on the link itself) because the site gets no traffic.
What I will agree with is if you have a site with a lot of content, and it's mostly not ranking, then it's probably not a great site
Exactly. So would you say that a link from a site like that is worth getting? And if not, would you still say that traffic is not a ranking factor? I think it's much more likely that a link that never gets clicked by an actual user is not a ranking factor.
No, as someone who sells links I am not in the slightest bit worried. It's almost comically laughable to be afraid of this.
Being worried about it would be pointless, since there is nothing you can do about it. You are not Google and you do not control Google.
My name is Bombo and I sell Tombo < What is this I have no idea

Yes my site

Bombo Tombo will be google's first with a half backlink, but we are talking about real keywords google liars told us "Mr Bombo" could be in the first result on the keyword casino eg no backlinks?

So we back for all " how google now or after 100 years or afterlife can rank mr bombo in casino keyword!
1 way if Google writers loses daily in bombo casino? maybe ,
This either doesn't make any sense because it's stupid, or it doesn't make sense because Google translate sucks. Either way, it doesn't add any value to the discussion.
 

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Well, if you're speaking according to your knowledge, understanding, or whatever, I respect, but I'm so stupid I always need proof for everything this post started on November 5th I took a new domain and attached it to the world's largest shared hosting, blogspot ( i just connect the name to blogspot, and i made one post about selling something, put in some fictitious details, and walked away.





I put the blog's name not english meaning "Other Auctions", trying to appear under a well-known site in the world's countries with a name close to the original name. i never use names or tags in backlinks only direct links or random numbers or anything as you see

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RESULT IN 14 DAYS ;P
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I got a keyword I never thought I'd get A gift from heaven,

meaning "countryname Auctions" !

Oh my God, this is a jump. I have to change from just an experiment to a serious money site.

What did i do for the newbie site?
The thing that sells my friends in the forum are backlinks for best prices,i did the same thing, but much, much stronger
( For information only: I do not sell backlinks )

And if I sold it what I did for this start-up site, it would be 1000 dollars, the least thing, so the friends in Black are wonderful and their prices are very wonderful and service for everyone.
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my iPhone show the newbie domain on second page ;p

For those who ask what I did? In fact, on 6/11, I added a million backlinks of high quality but without any description or tags, just random links or numbers or porn words to get some organic traffic.


And the next day, also a million backlinks

So! what do you think?
Why hide the domain and the URL? What are you trying to hide? Excuse me for not trusting you pseudo link science here simply because you won't let me explore the data myself. From where I'm standing you are the exact type of "SEO" that Google is not concerned about in the least. Blogspot links, hahahahaha. You probably think it's worth creating social media links too.
 

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I don't think the ranking position has anything to do with it. The algorithm and the patents used for it is in the public domain. Google will obviously be secretive about it, but you can go look at the formulas. I don't think ranking position of a page plays into how "powerful" the link is. Based on testing I have done, it does seem very much like links that get actual clicks pass more value than links on a PBN site that doesn't get seen by anyone ever. That would make sense, since links certainly is still a factor, but not all links are a factor and obviously not all links have the same value.

Again, pretty easy to test. Just like not all links are equal, not all traffic is equal either. A link that gets clicks because it's on a site that gets real traffic has higher value than link on a site that gets no click (on the link itself) because the site gets no traffic.

Exactly. So would you say that a link from a site like that is worth getting? And if not, would you still say that traffic is not a ranking factor? I think it's much more likely that a link that never gets clicked by an actual user is not a ranking factor.

Being worried about it would be pointless, since there is nothing you can do about it. You are not Google and you do not control Google.

This either doesn't make any sense because it's stupid, or it doesn't make sense because Google translate sucks. Either way, it doesn't add any value to the discussion.

Google don't have access to click data and they aren't using it as a ranking factor. This is not how google works. This is pure imagination/conspiracy theory.

I can tell you 100%, from direct experience. I run a 7 figure a year company that relies on SEO and I have ranked 100's of sites.

I am not telling you something from an article I've read on the web. This is my *direct* experience over the past 8 years of doing SEO.

Traffic is NOT a ranking factor. Clicks are NOT a ranking factor.

When I say I'm not "worried", it's not because it would be "pointless". It would be akin to saying that porn producers are worried that men will stop watching porn. It's so out of reality, hence I say it's "comically laughable".

Traffic is *not* a ranking factor. This is something, the mostly whitehat types, have been ranting about for a very long time. And in my experience it's pushed as a sales tactic by those selling junk links, because it's *ultra* easy to get traffic to a site. It isn't easy to get strong links. And it is links that have always been the source of power for a site. There is absolutely no patents and no high level SEO person that's ever talked about google using click data or traffic as a ranking factor. This is pure conspiracy theory nonsense that people imagine up because it "sounds logical".

It's such a low level idea that you don't even see any major people in the industry talk about it. The only ones who push it are sellers of trash guest posts with useless links that rank for a whole bunch of low comp keywords, and people eat it up because it sounds good and generally people have no understanding of engineering.

It's such an unreliable metric to rely on clicks. It has absolutely no connection with trust or reliability. The web would be a complete mess if you ranked sites based on only links that got clicks.

You are making the assumption that the only valuable pages are pages that should get clicks. This is not the case, and Google understands this.

Clicks are based on popularity and the ability to get traffic.

It's like saying coca cola is the best soft drink in the world because it's the most popular. It's just the most marketed. You are essentially saying that only the big soft drinks count and have value.

It does not work in practical terms. It does not work in search engineering.

Very few pages get traffic. You have to understand this. If you believe that only backlinks from pages with traffic have value then you are excluding 90% of pages on the web, no matter how strong they are, no matter what backlinks they have or how close they are to a seed page.

I have shown you a patent that talks about how backlinks ACTUALLY work.

Find me a patent that talks about links passing value if they have clicks, or links passing value if the pages they're on get clicks.

We'd all be getting $50 links on techbullion.com and making millions dominating the serps if what you said was true.

It has 208k traffic. Lots of clicks there. Unfortunately a link from it won't do jack shit.
 

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Site was flat dead since July product update.

Uptick since dec14 made a few bucks off site

Let's gooo
 
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