Do PBN services offered in this forum still work in 2021?

[arnie123]

Is it worthy nowadays to buy something like 10-15 blog posts on a PBN for less than 200 bucks like many of the services offer in this forum? What impact should I expect if I point those links to a blog website with DA 9? What are the odds to get caught and penalized by penguin?

Website info/stats:
DA 9
Homepage - 6 pilar pages - 130 posts
Domain aged 3 years
2.5K - 3K visits per month
Fitness niche

Never bought any link before. All organic. I only got the DA increased 2 points from 7 to 9 in the last year and I can't see any change in the metrics. I'm stuck and obviously is normal with that low authority it is so hard to rank. My goal is to try to build some links to get at least DA 20 but right now I have a tight budget. I wouldn't like to spend more than $200 so far. At least till I see some results and the actual chance to monetize the site and make the investment worthy. I already invested much time making the content and didn't see much organic growth. I'm wondering if one of those "affordable" packs mentioned above would be a good option to start, and how much should I expect in terms of authority increase and rank improvements? Standby to listen for your advise guys. Thanks.

 

[KHer0]

I think services in the marketplace vary significantly. And yiu really need to know your way there to get the desired results.

Ofcourse adding SEO to the mix which no one actually know what the hell google wants, makes things a lot harder.

Nowdays, we are like a herd of blind men, following a dog who can't sniff to get us out of a shitty maze.

No one really knows what is happening, we throw shit at the wall and see which will stick

 

[hideath]

The 1st thing to consider is to get the ride of considering DA as an actual metric that does evaluate a website,
Use this kind of metrics while searching/filtering websites nothing more, anything above this will need a manual review

Most of the sold PBNs for this actual price is actually total crab,
they're built open some weak domains with kinda low RDs (30-50), weak link profile & spammed to death just for the sake of selling,
Most of them won't give any actually shit to your ranking/result or their own pbn and you'll get your link published aside from some casino and adult post,
Keeping this in mind, such links won't pass any actual significant link juice and will make just a small bump in the SERPs for a few weeks up to a couple of months mostly

A really few sellers do sell decent PBN links for such a price along with a ton of scammers,
be careful with this

 

[typina]

Where is the link sellers? Look this is money opportunity!

personal advice: i prefer buy link from the blog owner it self . Do a bit research (outreach), find the most highest traffic (not metric), then ask them through form / email they attached on their website.

 

[GNews]

Take a long look at all the posts about "my traffic disappeared"

Then make your own opinion.

PBNs can only work if the content has high retention

If the people who run the blog in English, dont even understand the culture of English speakers...... You can bet your bottom dollar................ that site you bought these types of PBN back-links for can be nicknamed Titanic

 

[TiagoS]

Yes, make sure its the super hero ones. Like superman, spiderman, etc

 

[itz_styx]

you would be better off creating your own PBN. then you have full control and it will last.
you never know with those fake PBN services how long it will last and to how many people they sell the same links to.
thats why they don't work as well as a real PBN.

 

[splishsplash]

Take a long look at all the posts about "my traffic disappeared"

Then make your own opinion.

PBNs can only work if the content has high retention

If the people who run the blog in English, dont even understand the culture of English speakers...... You can bet your bottom dollar................ that site you bought these types of PBN back-links for can be nicknamed Titanic

I like how you start a "high retention backlinks service" then you go around the forum spouting nonsense theories about "only high retention backlinks work", which really is complete and utter nonsense because traffic has absolutely zero to do with ranking. Even the phrase "high retention backlinks" makes no sense. It's like some fancy phrase to flabbergast newbies that you've come up with.)

You are just making things up to confuse and mislead.

Create some actual case studies showing how "low retention backlinks" get sites penalized as you discussed here - https://www.blackhatworld.com/seo/t...e-linked-to-from-low-retention-pages.1338641/

I clearly showed you an example of a site ranking with nothing but, what you would describe as "low retention pages". These terms don't make sense, but what you are saying is backlinks from pages with low traffic get sites penalized.

You didn't address my reply there, and I find you here spreading misinformation in an attempt to hurt other sellers businesses and promote your own.

Please reply to the other thread with your case studies proving your claim, otherwise stop posting all over the place about how your backlinks are the only ones that won't get people penalized.

At least HELP people.

I run a PBN on here, and I don't go around posting constant threads about PBNs. I almost never post about them in fact. I teach people more about on-page and site architecture to help them rank, regardless of whether anyone buys from me or not. This is honest brand building. Going around sneakily saying only high retention backlinks work in 2021, while having "high retention backlinks" in your signature really just amounts to forum spam.

 

[GNews]

@splishsplash

Well, why would I repeat the case study of someone else?

There's already a whole post about it......that was done back in January or December of last year.

I could add to that but it's done enough to get the point across

High retention or your site will die. The end.


This is on High retention; various opinions. But I'm sure you'll deny it::

Does direct website visits affect SEO?

I was wondering what everyone thought, do you think direct website visits affect SEO? I saw a study from SemRush that is saying that it is an important ranking factor. Referring to this image: If you all do think it is a ranking factor, do you think purchasing high quality traffic through bots...

www.blackhatworld.com

And there's a much more in-depth post someone else created but I can't find it.........Can't do all your work for you bub.


If your PBN's not getting high/quality retention, step it up. Stop whining . Help your clients with quality sites, instead of being on this forum.

 

[splishsplash]

@splishsplash

Well, why would I repeat the case study of someone else?

There's already a whole post about it......that was done back in January or December of last year.

I could add to that but it's done enough to get the point across

High retention or your site will die. The end.


This is on High retention; various opinions. But I'm sure you'll deny it::

Does direct website visits affect SEO?

I was wondering what everyone thought, do you think direct website visits affect SEO? I saw a study from SemRush that is saying that it is an important ranking factor. Referring to this image: If you all do think it is a ranking factor, do you think purchasing high quality traffic through bots...

www.blackhatworld.com

And there's a much more in-depth post someone else created but I can't find it.........Can't do all your work for you bub.


If your PBN's not getting high/quality retention, step it up. Stop whining . Help your clients with quality sites, instead of being on this forum.

I know the feeling. There was a very in-depth post talking about how to grow money on trees, but conveniently.. I can't find it. Doh.

Good luck with your sales, "bub".

 

[GNews]

@splishsplash

Sounds like you're hurt. But since you asked for it in the genuine jester manor, who wont admit the truth.... I decided to oblige in your request.

Funny thing, there's lots of websites talking about such trashy PBN links on sites that are spammy/have low quality posts (the exact same thing I've said in those posts you talk about)

But Here's a quote from a full 2000+ word report from ReBoot on-line, who actually even happened to shout out this forum.

As anyone with their ears to the ground would tell you, there has not been any major Google PBN de-indexing or discoveries lately. No high profile PBN network has been taken down, and no waves of users on Black Hat World or other similar forums announcing their rage at the new penalty their target site has achieved due to an over reliance on a PBN. The reason for the silence? Google has decided to do what they always said they will. The are allowing their algorithms to determine the trust of each individual domain and assign the “juice” to the links coming from the site appropriately.


Examples of such questions we strongly suspect the algorithms are asking of such domains? Especially of domains where fundamental details such as ownership has changed recently.


1. Does the site have any meaningful traffic? Most PBNs will have a WP blog slapped on it and lots of poorly written general blog posts with obvious spammy links. Those never receive any real traffic hence the links from it are almost nullified.


2. Does the domain have authority markers? Things such as a confirmed address, contact details, phone number, Terms and Conditions, relevant blog which is updated regularly and an active social media scene are all signals that Google can easily use to determine how much trust it should allocate to links from that domain.


3. Is anyone actually reading the site? Using metrics like bounce rates combines with knowing average length of time spent on page compared to length and pogo sticking around Google could easily verify if the site is offering any value and demote rink juice accordingly.


4. Does the site have GSC or analytics installed?


I am sure there are more but you get the jist.

to find this full article on why low quality PBNs are dead, google search: Google Killed the PBN

Is that enough data for you to digest little buddy?

I would link directly but I think this site might have something that violates rules here.

If you should happen to need a job in the future, here's a visual tip on one I think you'd be talented at:
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[blackbeans]

PBN services here vary quite a bit.

Some PBN operators would buy an expired domain with barely passable SEO qualities.

Others pay big money for once high-flying, well-known websites that may have developed a brand 10 or 15 years ago but went belly-up for whatever reason.

They, of course, fetch a lot of money, but they're well worth it because the SEO quality of the backlinks from such sites blows away the competition.

What makes the PBN market tricky is that it has many players, and it's easy to judge the market based on the lowest quality player.

You will have to ask many questions and get a good idea of what these PBN are based on.

And once you find high-quality PBNs, you have a higher chance of succeeding.

Don't think that all PBN links being offered to you are the same because they're not.

Like any service, there are high-quality ones that produce excellent results, and others are not as good.

You're going to have to do your due diligence.