How is your life as an online entrepreneur? (or whatever we are doing, is called) Mine is pretty grey

Heiko said:

Think about what you want out of your life

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This is probably THE question. It seems a quite simple one. It isn't. It's actually very difficult IMHO to define what you want out of your life.

The 9 to 5 appeal may be to have part of your life where is no question: Go to work every single day at a certain place. Meet the same people. Have the same boring "conversations" which aren't really conversations anyway. Do what you're told, etc.

It may be the answer to partially NOT ask yourself this important question.
If OP wants friends and people to interact with, he's free to do so and choose them. Is going to a 9 to 5 the answer? (only him can answer this for himself).

@BlueRabbits Bro I am in the same situation and even started learning coding languages so i can join some office but after reading the answers of other members i think i should invest in some second business and spend some time there and will balance my work and business. I was thinking of a restrautant from a long time and i think now i know what i have to do.

Buddy, perception is reality. We see what we believe, not the other way around!

You have self esteem issues by the sound of it than any actual problems. You have achieved what these 9-5 shmucks can't do in their entire lives even if God himself came down and handed them a blueprint. It is the difference between sheep and a shepherd basically.

Forming and if you can swing it, retroactively positioning yourself in other LLCs is the answer to a lot of your resume woes. Although I can't imagine for the life of me why you'd ever want to go "back into the system" as you say.

You should come to terms with your role in life as a shepherd of others or leader, and not as someone who can "go back into the system"- that is not a good option for your abilities and personality types. Also there is no need to condescend either, that's just me and my sometimes toxic personality, think of shepherding others as helping them rather than call them "shmucks" etc.

Start networking with other entrepreneurs such as at the chamber of commerce, and also look into starting your own incubator or at the very least co working space/coffeeshop. Position yourself as full of confidence and inability to fail in your own head. You can rent an office in a skyscraper and have all these shmucks come to you for interviews everyday, and that fullfills your (I assure you temporary) need for "meeting people."

BlueRabbits said:

I'm gonna explain briefly my situation cause I'm really curious if there are others in my situation as well and how you manage life as a whole.

I'm 24 and working online since I was 14, started slowly but consistently and made a lot of money. Managed to build systems, passive incomes etc.

Due to this, never felt the need to get a real life job.

But now, all my friends are having jobs, they are going to the office, meeting new people, going into team buildings etc, while I am here, in my home doing online stuff without many friends (I'm living with my gf so that's a big + at least as I'm not quite feeling that lonely)

I have enough money to live, I don't need anything else, if I want to go anywhere to eat/drink/party whatever, I can do so, I'm not feeling the lack of money anymore in my life, so my motivation and driving factors are not related to material stuff or anything - pretty grey mental state


Is someone in the same situation here? Do you make a lot of money online but don't have a community of friends or do you feel lonely?
How you manage life? Even if we all make money and stuff, sometimes I'm thinking in just going and getting a job just for the sake of meeting new people and seeing how that office job can be.


Also, another important thing is, if I wanna make a CV, what the hell should I write in it? They are asking for experience in the field, but like in which companies I worked. I cannot say I worked for CPA networks and shit, I have no portofolios or anything, I simply made money online out of thin air lmao

If you work online like this for years, and then you wanna go back into the "system", how you manage it? How you present yourself to possible employers or other people?


Really really curious about this guys, as time flies and things are changing, being 30 y/o with 0 experience in the working industry irl but with 100k in the bank won't probably help you much, so what is your take on this?


Edit: one thing I forgot to add is, I don't even know what I am specialized in or what I wanna do as a niche (cause in life is good to be focused on a niche and be master at it) - I know marketing (organic, paid), I know design, I know management, I know investing, I know trading, I know a lot of shit from a huge array of things, but not mastering them, so the best way to go is to focus myself on a "micro-niche" and be master at it, but the cons to it would be that I would need people on other niches in order to form a business as I am positioning myself to lets say digital marketing, someone gotta take care of website building as example, so yea idk man im just kinda depressed rn, and I am almost never depressed lol, but reading your replies makes me feel a bit better tbh, so thank you

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I am/was in the exact same booth as you. Started IM at around 16 and now I am 29. Never had financial problems nor had to ask for money from my parents from my early 17, I have loads of friends though.

My biggest problem was the lockdown from Covid which killed me mentally and I knew I had to make a change. Luckily, I found a part-time job as a developer(but also making suggestions for SEO, CRO, ads) and having to put a daily routine of waking up, going to the office and drinking coffee with colleagues improved my mental state heavily.

My plan for the future is to have my own office and my own employees but until the time comes here are a few things that helped me tremendously:
*Find a sport you love and be active physically
*Travel a lot
*Spend your money on things you love (this was an important one for me)

Dark Hat 007 said:

2. You won't believe this, but having a girlfriend is crazy enough now having a gf you llive with is another layer of crazy, you can never socialize and this is why, people you'll rather socialize with should or are in the same age bracket as you and majority are either single or dating but not playing marriage like you, unless you reach out to married couples.

This doesn't mean having a gf is bad, I'm just saying, pick your poison and drink it.

3. You want to interact right? Apply to work as a bar tender in a club and ask them to keep the pay, just go there and watch people every night have fun. (I once considered this)

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Bro... I couldn't say these better!!!
Yes, it is "pick your poison and drink it" - indeed you won't see often people playing the "marriage" game. We do have some friends who are actually married with a kid, but their lives fell apart and have other issues, we barely have any interests in common or go out and be free and have fun, due to their lack of time and issues.

Regarding the 3rd point, I WOULD 100% DO THIS, I know some amazing clubs that are

MV3 said:

This is probably THE question. It seems a quite simple one. It isn't. It's actually very difficult IMHO to define what you want out of your life.

The 9 to 5 appeal may be to have part of your life where is no question: Go to work every single day at a certain place. Meet the same people. Have the same boring "conversations" which aren't really conversations anyway. Do what you're told, etc.

It may be the answer to partially NOT ask yourself this important question.
If OP wants friends and people to interact with, he's free to do so and choose them. Is going to a 9 to 5 the answer? (only him can answer this for himself).

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This is actually "THE" question, because if you want a different life, you gotta do what 99% of people are not doing = being us.

Secondary, the 9-5 concept appeals to me just for the sake of having something new and exciting in my life, I know that after 2-3 months, I'd get bored and quit if nothing else would happen and the shiny syndrome would disappear.

Negi Ji said:

@BlueRabbits Bro I am in the same situation and even started learning coding languages so i can join some office but after reading the answers of other members i think i should invest in some second business and spend some time there and will balance my work and business. I was thinking of a restrautant from a long time and i think now i know what i have to do.

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A ton of answers from this thread truly helped me.
I'm also thinking about a coffee shop cause its easier than a restaurant and I'd still get that out of home effect with new people and I love coffee and I know how to make good coffee cause I invested some $ in espressos and stuff in my own home haha, might be different from what its out there in the shops, but would be a good easy challange to do and take care of, so yea completely on my to-do list

Also im thinking in getting into animation and do movies and stuff, or film making or photography or something, but that would be only and only a super tiny hobby for me

The Oracle said:

Buddy, perception is reality. We see what we believe, not the other way around!

You have self esteem issues by the sound of it than any actual problems. You have achieved what these 9-5 shmucks can't do in their entire lives even if God himself came down and handed them a blueprint. It is the difference between sheep and a shepherd basically.

Forming and if you can swing it, retroactively positioning yourself in other LLCs is the answer to a lot of your resume woes. Although I can't imagine for the life of me why you'd ever want to go "back into the system" as you say.

You should come to terms with your role in life as a shepherd of others or leader, and not as someone who can "go back into the system"- that is not a good option for your abilities and personality types. Also there is no need to condescend either, that's just me and my sometimes toxic personality, think of shepherding others as helping them rather than call them "shmucks" etc.

Start networking with other entrepreneurs such as at the chamber of commerce, and also look into starting your own incubator or at the very least co working space/coffeeshop. Position yourself as full of confidence and inability to fail in your own head. You can rent an office in a skyscraper and have all these shmucks come to you for interviews everyday, and that fullfills your (I assure you temporary) need for "meeting people."

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Bro.. reading this kind of replies makes me love this forum more and more and I'm actually super happy for starting this thread.

First of all, I don't quite have self esteem issues, but rather I have forgotten my abilities and personality type due to many months of breaks and taking this for granted. My gf (who is completely the opposite of me and her parents) made me think getting a job, and they presented it to me as a curious pathway to see what's about and somehow "verify" my skills into a corporation, since I never touched floor to a proper corporation where you have deadlines and shit, so that's another perspective to it, but yes I do agree with you 100% regarding the "shepperd" stance, as I do see in my small circle of friends that I am the "leader" of the pack, I am looking for where to go,what to do etc.. At one point it gets annoying and boring to be a leader of lazy sheep irl, but yea.. this world needs leaders who have engraved in their minds that failing is not an option (something I already have)

You simply cannot fail in this world, perception is reality, and everything starts from your mind.

You said it better than me, thank you for your answer!

MaximuSR said:

I am/was in the exact same booth as you. Started IM at around 16 and now I am 29. Never had financial problems nor had to ask for money from my parents from my early 17, I have loads of friends though.

My biggest problem was the lockdown from Covid which killed me mentally and I knew I had to make a change. Luckily, I found a part-time job as a developer(but also making suggestions for SEO, CRO, ads) and having to put a daily routine of waking up, going to the office and drinking coffee with colleagues improved my mental state heavily.

My plan for the future is to have my own office and my own employees but until the time comes here are a few things that helped me tremendously:
*Find a sport you love and be active physically
*Travel a lot
*Spend your money on things you love (this was an important one for me)

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I go to the gym and that helps me TREMENDOUSLY!
Traveling is a bit hard for me due to my gf being unable to travel that much due to lack of time, she's doing university and stuff and she barely has any free time, but spending money on things I love is something I do, I got a nice car and pretty much everything I need for my survival. I am not a materialistic person, I don't even like buying clothes tbh, I'm a super simple person haha, but definately having money and having the chance of spending them whenever you want on whatever you want is a big +, which we sometimes take for granted and the value of it drops

Also, going to offices, drinking coffee with colleagues and interracting with other people is something I'm thinking about, but maybe on my own terms (own business) rather than in an office of some weird boss


Nevertheless, I applied for a really cool job that I will work with students and young people (I will send people in US with work and travel programs), high paying salary, a lot of bonuses, not much work, just comunicate with students and stuff, so if I will get approved, I'm thinking in going a month or 2 there to see how it is, but I am not 100% sure I will get approved also I'm not 100% sure in my heart that I truly want to go there yet but it might be due to a drastic change in my lifes out of a sudden. Let's see what happens though, I'm really curious

Good luck in your offline journey as well.

BlueRabbits said:

Regarding the 3rd point, I WOULD 100% DO THIS, I know some amazing clubs that are

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Yeah, you should... You are going to be okay.

Don't go back into the system, you are above that.

Travelling has helped me a lot in those moments. I have a family but they don't mind if I want to go alone or with friends mountain hiking or visit some new city. Of course, we also make family trips together when everybody is available.

Also, industry conferences like Affiliateworld, etc. are cool where you can find people with the same interests, network until early morning and make new friends.

If you still want to try working for somebody else, I would look into startups. They have way relaxed rules about 9-5, usually likeminded people and cold beer in the freezer

You know marketing , and SEO . Rent a office , open a SEO and marketing company can be a good choices. I can work at home , but still I choose to go office. That's maybe a change you want.

Hi

We are in the same boat. I am doing is attend to live conferences and also i started a job recently . it is not about the money, it is about the social contacts. They dont know I am working online so we are all good! You should try this out!

I cannot bear having a boss.
Office has always been "my office".
I don't get why you complain.

Broooo <3

welcome to my world xD

I've gotten used to not being able to talk about my work with almost any of my friends, since they don't even understand what I do. I also know what it's like to feel occasionally "envious" of other jobs with more human contact. but then I remember what it's like to put up with a boss, work with incompetents, get cheated and steal hours of work in an office, etc... and... I'm so glad to work from home in my pajamas and smoking xD

I have not had a normal job since I started with the internet, back in 2016. So I fully understand your problem with CVs.The few attempts I have made to make a CV or have a job interview, would give to make a Netflix series, or a YouTube channel. Seriously, I'm not even trying anymore, too many ridiculous situations. I don't like companies and I think they don't like me either.

In short, in the end, everything in life is a choice. When you feel low, remember why you chose to dedicate yourself to this

Just a reminder that people who work full-time in a regular job give most of the available time in their lives, to that job.

If you run a business, whether online or offline, and you can make enough money to live on (or hopefully a lot more!) then you should NEVER give this up. I never will.

In terms of social interaction, there are lots of good opportunities to meet people, you just need to start saying “YES” to things.

Even things you don’t see a lot of value in.

Openings of new bars, jewellery stores, events at your local gym, there are so many examples, and they’re all free!

If there’s going to be a group of people there, then go!

It isn’t difficult to get invites to events where the goal is for the event organiser to sell you something!

And you are happily trading your time as a sales lead for the event in exchange for the social interaction and chance to meet people.

Give that a try for a few months. You will soon meet people, and before you know it, you’ll have more going on socially than you ever have.

I am at a time in my life where I am earning pretty good money and my friends started getting married and having kids.

If I didn’t proactively do something about my social life I would literally sit alone every weekend.

Something to note is that your girlfriend probably won’t like this… not trying to drag you over to the dark side but having money and being single in your early 30’s can be FUN

Yes said:

The opposite actually. I wish some of these clowns would just leave me alone.

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I fixed this by having airplane mode on 24/7 on and leaving the house just to get food and basic necessities, also made a home gym so that I don't have to go to the gym as well, now I just run my phone once in 3-5 days to see why people called me then turn it back off again... There are days when i wouldn't say a word out of my mouth lol

Henny10 said:

In terms of social interaction, there are lots of good opportunities to meet people

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If he really wants social interactions, he could also go around to try to sell his services to businesses (SMM for example). There, you meet lots of different people, stay (kind of) free, and have the potential to earn money in the process.

Once you reached 30, you gonna love it.
Because all your friends are married and they gonna be alone too, I mean busy with their wife and kids.

You need to have your own office. You can rent somewhere near 2-3km from your house.
Wakeup in the morning, shower, take care key drive to the office, and pretend like you have a job. In the process you gonna meet people. Go to the gym, jogs, etc

But yeah again I in your position when I was 20’s

But once I reached 30’s, I got a lot of friends asking to hangout, or travel. Yet I feel lazy, tiring to social, prefer to be alone.

Continue to be your own boss. Join some membership club, and meet new people. Go to the beach meet new people. Talk to a few random cool people a café, meet new people. Join a co-working space,, meet new people.

Above all, exercise DAILY. You mood will stay positive alway. Thank me later.

Lol was in same position few years back having left the system and started my own businesses. Some online some brick and mortar. One thing you can try to do is to hang out more with other entrepreneurs. I find that they think on the same wavelength and it has even led to some new business opportunities

LOL. If you want to meet new people, there are a lot of (better) ways other than a 9-5 job.

I run online shops with a friend. I make decent money, I can work whenever I want, I can work while I'm traveling or going on vacation. The only CURRENT cons are the money is almost always tied up in the next shipment. I need to stop working for 2-3 weeks to gather all my money. I do the most work on Thursdays and Fridays, as I ship everything on these 2 days. I might start a thread about how I started tbh.